MusicWeb Christmas Challenge: 
                Who was (or is) the most prolific composer of all?
                The American composer Charles Ives certainly wasn't particularly 
                  prolific but he did write a short piece with off-stage solo 
                  trumpet called The Unanswered Question. Our thanks go to everyone 
                  who entered the challenge but, despite their efforts, it is 
                  hard to escape the feeling that the question remains unanswered. 
                  Perhaps it was unanswerable and that was the argument advanced 
                  by Michael Whalley who suggested that "Music exists only 
                  while it is actually being performed 
 the most prolific 
                  composer at any given moment is the one whose music is being 
                  given the maximum number of performances worldwide", concluding 
                  that "No method exists of getting this information so the 
                  question cannot be answered".
                To make a serious 
                  attempt to answer the question would require some kind of criteria 
                  for making the judgement and an awful lot of information trawling. 
                  It was suggested to us by Paul Serotsky and Marc Bridle that 
                  the number of notes might be the basic criterion. Paul also 
                  went further and suggested pen strokes, banning users of computer 
                  programmes and a "prolificness quotient"! Another 
                  approach is to rely on authoritative sources and in terms of 
                  what is the biggest, smallest, fastest etc. the Guinness Book 
                  of Worlds Records is a source which many of us would accept 
                  as reliable. According to a Wikipedia 
                  article (can we rely on that?) on Telemann this publication 
                  has declared him the most prolific of all time. Alternatively, 
                  Richard Masters proposed Carl Czerny - another composer whose 
                  output undoubtedly was remarkably large.
                One answer - from 
                  Jim Moskowitz - caused more thought, discussion and scurrying 
                  around here than all the others put together. He suggested Rowan 
                  Taylor based on this entry in Wikipedia. 
                  This cites respected publications such as Who's Who in the World 
                  as listing him but a check of the 2004 edition didn't find an 
                  entry for him (he died in 2005). We were also sceptical about 
                  him because a search of the Pierce College website - he definitely 
                  taught there for many years - failed to find anything. In the 
                  end we resorted to searching Grove Online and found about 45 
                  people with Taylor as part of their name - none of them were 
                  called Rowan. We do know that he wasn't a complete figment of 
                  someone's imagination, but the lack of an authoritative source 
                  made us unable to accept the claims made in Wikipedia about 
                  the number of his compositions. At our request, Wikipedia added 
                  the warning that the information in the entry is disputed. All 
                  this is no reflection on Jim Moskowitz who supplied the kind 
                  of answer we had expected might win - i.e. someone really obscure.
                Given the difficulties 
                  of answering the question, several entries resorted to lateral 
                  thinking and, in general, we liked these answers. For example, 
                  Tom Gauterin argued for J.S. Bach because he was prolific in 
                  other ways - in particular fathering children and because several 
                  of his sons were composers. Michael Stubbart argued for John 
                  Cage solely on the basis of one work - As 
                  slowly and softly as possible which is currently in 
                  the early stages of a performance expected to last for 639 years, 
                  assuming the organ survives, and can be listened to live on 
                  the internet. 
                  Cage obviously took to heart the critic of 4 minutes and 33 
                  seconds (of silence) who looked forward to his future works 
                  being of major length! Also testing out our sense of humour 
                  was Richard Saunders who proposed Vadim Salmanov on the basis 
                  that his second symphony is somewhere listed (presumably in 
                  error) as Opus 1959.
                In terms of the composers mentioned, Telemann was the most 
                  frequent (4 times) and no one else was mentioned more than once. 
                  A complete list of suggestions in alphabetical order was as 
                  follows:
                J.S. Bach
                  Buxtehude
                  Cage
                  Czerny
                  Haydn
                  Liszt
                  Milhaud
                  Salmanov
                  Segerstam
                  Stölzel
                  J. Strauss Jnr
                  Rowan Taylor
                  Telemann
                  Vivaldi
                At the end of the day, we were looking for good justification, 
                  ingenuity and/or humour. Our judgements should not be taken 
                  as being a view on who actually was the most prolific composer! 
                  The prize winners and their answers were as follows:
                1st. Michael Whalley
                "I shall prove 
                  that the question posed by the MusicWeb Christmas Challenge 
                  is impossible to answer. (1) The key premise is your requirement 
                  that "the music must still exist". (2) Music exists 
                  only while it is actually being performed. The score of a symphony 
                  is not music. It doesn't matter a fig how much music a composer 
                  has written; we are concerned only with how much of it exists. 
                  (3) The most prolific composer at any given moment is the one 
                  whose music is being given the maximum number of performances 
                  worldwide (this may or may not include recordings, according 
                  to taste). At 8.28pm on a certain day, this might be, say, Mozart; 
                  a few seconds later it could be Delius (though I hope not). 
                  It could even be somebody who has written only a couple of works 
                  that just happen to be taken up by 'the media'. (4) Hence the 
                  most prolific composer varies from moment to moment. To decide 
                  who it is at time T, it would be necessary to detect what is 
                  being played everywhere in the world (the universe?) at that 
                  moment. (5) No method exists of getting this information. (6) 
                  So the question cannot be answered, QED."
                2nd. David Oberg
                
                "I nominate 
                  Georg Philip Telemann as the most prolific composer of all time. 
                  By my count, the Telemann Werkverzeichnis includes 431 sacred 
                  vocal works, 207 secular vocal works, 345 instrumental works, 
                  626 chamber works, and 284 orchestral works. A grand total of 
                  1,893 compositions! Yet, again by my tally, this number includes 
                  183 lost works, several unverifiable works, 4 fragments plus 
                  a number of transposed works, second versions of several works, 
                  supplements, and transcriptions of works by other composers. 
                  Studies into Telemann's thematic catalogues published as recently 
                  as the 1980s and 1990s, have shown that he actually wrote over 
                  3,000 compositions, many of which are now lost (many manuscripts 
                  were destroyed during WWII). Conversely, some works, thought 
                  lost, were recently discovered by noted musicologist Jason Grant 
                  (PhD '05, University of Pittsburgh).
                  
                  However, is unlikely that Telemann is the most prolific composer 
                  to date. That honor goes to Simon Sechter (1788-1867), the Austrian 
                  music theorist, advocate of just intonation, organist, author 
                  of Die Grundsätze der musikalischen Komposition, 
                  and teacher of, among others, Anton Bruckner. It is estimated 
                  that he wrote over 8,000 pieces, thus leaving Telemann far behind. 
                  Sechter wrote operas (including Ali Hitsch-Hatsch), masses, 
                  oratorios, works for organ (including 32 Leichte Versetten), 
                  piano pieces, songs (including Gute Nacht), choruses 
                  (including one for Schiller's Die Braut von Messina), 
                  et al. Astoundingly, he penned approximately 5,000 fugues, attempting 
                  to write at least one each day. Perhaps mercifully, most of 
                  Sechter's oeuvre no longer exists. As an honorable mention, 
                  I am intensely compelled to nominate Sechter as a prolific sufferer 
                  of obsessive-compulsive fugatitis. (Via his studies with Sechter, 
                  did Bruckner master the fugue and cultivate his particular obsessive-compulsive 
                  traits [counting leaves on a tree, etc.]? I think about this 
                  subject and counter-subject constantly.)" 
                
                3rd. Richard Masters
                "To the horror 
                  of piano students everywhere, the composer without a doubt most 
                  deserving of the "greatest" appellation (if one judges 
                  according to prolific output only) is none other than Carl Czerny. 
                  Remembered now as a disciple of Beethoven and a tireless composer 
                  of torturous etudes for recalcitrant children, Czerny was regarded 
                  in his time as a talented pianist, composer, arranger and pedagogue. 
                  Some might say that Czerny's most important contribution to 
                  the musical world was his pupil Franz Liszt, but his massive 
                  work list occasionally gives up a small jewel (if never a diamond) 
                  of musical inspiration.
                  
                  Czerny's published works run to 856 opus numbers, including 
                  piano works (studies, sonatas, transcriptions), violin sonatas 
                  and other instrumental works, concerti, operas and symphonies; 
                  the list 
                  runs ever onward. Like his pupil Liszt, Herr Czerny never met 
                  an etude or operatic potpourri he didn't like, composing well 
                  over a thousand individual etudes and numerous fantasies on 
                  the works of composers as diverse as Schubert, Bellini and Wagner. 
                  
                  
                  In addition to published works, there are two unpublished "grande" 
                  symphonies, nineteen string quartets and many other chamber 
                  works and choral pieces. Czerny also found the time to edit 
                  (some say re-write) the works of Bach and Beethoven, in addition 
                  to arranging symphonies and operas of Beethoven, Mozart, Haydn 
                  and Donizetti for the piano. 
                  
                  In the last fifty years, musicians have reevaluated Czerny's 
                  works, with luminaries such as Vladimir Horowitz, Anton Kuerti, 
                  Stephen Hough and Barry Tuckwell exploring his variations and 
                  sonatas. Several of Czerny's symphonies have been recorded, 
                  as well as various choral and chamber works. Perhaps this is 
                  the beginning of a Czerny renaissance? Whether or not his work 
                  deserves such wide exposure as that of his contemporaries Beethoven 
                  and Schubert (it doesn't), one cannot argue with the sheer size 
                  of his catalogue; if "prolificity" wins the race, 
                  then Herr Czerny is the greatest composer of his generation." 
                  
                  
                  4th. Tom Gauterin
                "The most prolific composer of all time, surely, must 
                  be J. S. Bach. Yes, he wrote 200-odd cantatas, set just about 
                  every word of the Bible to music at least twice, redefined what 
                  was possible on violin and cello, perfected the form of the 
                  concerto grosso, produced enough keyboard works to give harpsichordists, 
                  pianists and organists a lifetime's sustenance and (nearly) 
                  finished the definitive guide to fugue. 
                  
                  But never mind all that. The man fathered 20 children and, if 
                  that isn't prolific, I don't know what is." 
                  
                  Len Mullenger will be in contact with the prize winners - our 
                  congratulations go to them. As indicated in the challenge, we 
                  will not enter into individual correspondence related to our 
                  decision on the prizes but reflections on the exercise are welcome 
                  on the Bulletin 
                  board.