THE GREAT COMPOSERS
An Occasional series by Dr David C. F. Wright
based on his article What makes a great composer?
This article was originally written
in 1965, my first essay about a composer. It depends heavily on the
writings of others and there is nothing new in what I say. Any mistakes
are mine, though. However, I have updated it for the series on this
website as part of the project to introduce great composers.
Copyright David C. F. Wright 2001. This
article must not be copied in part or the whole or stored in any retrieval
system or used in any way without the prior written consent of the author.
Wagner is the first composer to have inspired me, and he still does.
At the age of thirteen I declared that he was my favourite composer.
I conducted The Mastersingers Overture in my front room many times!
I had Furtwängler's magnificent recording of Tristan and Isolde
and played and played it with a large vocal score on which I wrote many
comments some of which now read as awful juvenilia.
I said it was the greatest of all operas and, today, I still believe
that passionately. I loved the second act and could sing most of it
without the music although my German was suspect. The Liebestod is the
most sublime music I know. And what a way to end an opera. The only
comparison is the end of Verdi's Aida with the contralto chanting out
those glorious D flats.
The most frequently comment about Wagner's music is, "There are
some great moments but long half hours." I can see that point but
the expectation of the next tremendous moment is worth the wait and
can afford edge-of-the-seat excitement.
Wilhelm Richard Wagner was born on 22 May 1813, the ninth child of Carl
Friedrich Wilhelm Wagner and Johanna Rosine, nee Patz. The birth took
place at a house called The Red and White Lion in the Bruhl district
of Leipzig. Carl was a police official and thought by some to be a friend
to the occupying French and, therefore, something of a traitor. He died
of typhus on 23rd November 1813 at the age of 33 before Richard's first
Richard's mother remarried the following year on the 28th August to
Ludwig Geyer and they had a daughter six months later. Geyer was an
actor, painter, costume designer and thought himself to be a playwright.
In September they set up home in Dresden. At the age of four Richard
deputised for a girl in a performance of Schiller's William Tell. The
resultant consequences are well known but reveal how the boy was ultra-sensitive.
In 1820 he went to the village school in Possendorf. By now his stepfather
was very ill with tuberculosis and he spent some time with Richard's
uncle Adolf. Hitler relished the Adolf connection. Geyer was very depressed
and his asthma became worse. Young Richard played the piano to Geyer
who expressed the boy's potential talent but this realisation was too
late. Geyer died the next day, 30th September.
The older children now had to work to provide income for the large family
and Johanna took in lodgers. At one time these included the composer,
Richard had the nickname of 'the Cossack'. When he was sent for a year
to Eisleben to stay with Karl Geyer he was taken with a local tightrope
walker and tried to copy his feats. But he was a very sensitive and
emotional child subject to shocking nightmares. Loneliness was a great
fear for him and he was regularly ill. He had a fascination for Greek
mythology and drama. The Greek appealed to him because it was not real
and, therefore, not a threat; it was fantasy and fiction and these concepts
were later to suffuse his great operatic masterpieces.
When Weber came to Dresden for performances of his opera Der Freischutz
young Wagner would watch him walking to the theatre. It deeply impressed
Richard who now decided to emulate Weber and be a great composer. He
was going to copy him. Although Weber is best known for his operas he
also wrote two symphonies. So did Wagner. Weber wrote a few piano pieces
including sonatas. So did Wagner. The similarity cannot be overlooked.
Richard tried to play Weber's music and went to Herr Humann for piano
Weber died in 1826. Richard moved into lodgings with a family called
Bohme. His mother took him to Prague in 1826 and in the summer of 1827
his mother and his two youngest sisters moved to Leipzig but, although
he visited, he was still at school in Dresden. His passion for literature
increased but within two years this was superseded by music. The other
great motivation was seeing Beethoven's Fidelio and, I suspect, being
overwhelmed by the soprano Wilhelmine Schroder-Devrient. He actually
wrote to her.
In 1830 he wrote two overtures in C and B flat respectively. The second
survives. He enrolled as a music student at the University of Leipzig
in 1831. Drinking, gambling and the resultant debts plagued him. He
even staked his mother's pension and lost it. This was the age of revolution.
There was the Warsaw uprising which meant Polish refugees were in Leipzig.
He wrote a Political Overture which is lost.
There are a few piano works of this time. A Fantasia in F sharp minor
owes something to Bach but his first published compositions were the
Piano Sonata in B flat and a Polonaise and Trio in D for piano duet.
His indebtedness to Beethoven was revealed in his Concert Overture in
D minor which was well received on Christmas Day 1831; there was a Concert
Overture in C, which ends fugally, and also an overture, König
Enzio premiered in March 1833. Then there was second piano sonata, the
Grosse Sonata in A major, and a Scene and Aria for the soprano Henriette
That year saw a local cholera epidemic and Wagner removed to Vienna
and then to Bohemia where his interest in girls took a different turn.
Here they aspired to social climbing, emulated the Italians and read
trashy novels! But Richard's Symphony was now complete and there was
a private performance in November. He had also made sketches for his
first opera, Die Hochzeit.
The next move was to Wurzburg and to the opera house to learn about
the theatre. He had written the libretto to his next opera Die Feen.
The work was completed in January 1834. Later, he was offered the post
of conductor of the Magdeburg theatre in Leipzig. On finding lodgings
he met the most beautiful woman of the company, Minna Planer, and his
life changed. He conducted Mozart's Don Giovanni and was working on
his Symphony in E. Minna was four years older than Wagner. She took
to him as a lad that needed looking after and it is assumed that they
soon became lovers.
Wagner had written a cantata Beim Antritt des neune Jahres and another
overture Columbus. At the same time he was working on his third opera
Das Liebesverbot the music of which is heavily influenced by other composers.
In 1833 Wagner had become notorious exploring the Bavarian countryside.
He was always in the local taverns chatting up the girls! One tried
to become engaged to him but he had already become serious with Frederike
Galvani. When he met up with her again in 1835 after a break he found
that she had had a child by some country bumpkin whom he dismissed as
an unworthy rival. That year his Uncle Adolf died and Minna's mother
arrived and told Minna that she must not get involved with Wagner. When
Minna left for Berlin it broke Wagner's heart. He wept like a child
and wrote several love letters to her.
Das Liebesverbot was performed on March 26, 1836 but it was something
of a disaster. Worse was to come. He went to prison for debt. He moved
to Berlin later and met up with Minna and their attraction to each other
was obvious. In November they married at Tragheim church. It was to
prove a mistake. Marrying a flirt is always unwise.
In 1837 he wrote the overture Rule Britannia for George Smart of the
Philharmonic Society in London. It is a work best forgotten. At this
time Wagner was reading Lytton's Rienzi which he began to set as an
opera. It was premiered in Dresden in 1842 and with great success.
After six months of marriage the Wagners separated. Richard could not
stand her flirting and almost certain infidelity. She hated his criticisms
and objections. On her side she did not like the problem of his debts
and his temper. He missed her dreadfully and so he wrote an apology
to her, although she was the main wrongdoer and he begged her back.
There was a reconciliation and she remained in an uneasy marriage. They
split over Wagner's affair with Mathilde Wesendonck in 1858 but Minna
returned to Wagner in 1859.
Karl von Holtei was a theatre manager and appointed Wagner as conductor
in Riga in 1837. Holtei apparently had designs on Minna and introduced
her to a rich and handsome merchant. Wagner was furious. Holtei left
because of the troubles which he had caused. His replacement, Joseph
Hoffmann, wanted Wagner replaced. There were threats that Wagner could
be imprisoned for debt and so Wagner had no choice but to flee Russia.
He wanted to go to Paris where it was alleged the music scene was second
Wagner's passport had been impounded and how could they afford to travel
to Paris? They sold what they could. Friends accompanied the Wagners
to meet a friend on the Prussian side of the border. This friend drove
them through the quiet roads and to the Russian frontier where there
were sentries at short distances who had instructions to shoot all fugitives
on sight. During one stage of the journey the carriage crashed and the
Wagners were injured. It is said that the injuries Minna suffered prevented
her having children. They arrived at Pillau, Wagner having decided to
sail to London thinking it would be cheaper option and safer. They were
at sea for what was an indeterminate time including sailing past Copenhagen.
There was a terrific storm and, no doubt, Wagner had this sea voyage
in mind when he composed The Flying Dutchman.
The Wagners and their dog Robber arrived in Gravesend and went by steamer
to London Bridge. They found lodgings. Later they did some sightseeing
but they did not like London. They sailed to Boulogne in August and
on the ship met two Jewish ladies who were friends of the composer Meyerbeer
who was also a Jew. On reaching terra firma a meeting was arranged between
Wagner and Meyerbeer who welcomed him and was very kind to him. Why
Meyerbeer should be thus hated by Wagner might be a mystery but the
timing was so soon after many trials including the deception of Holtei,
a dangerous escape, an uncertain future and nowhere to go and no prospects.
Meyerbeer was comparatively secure. They arrived in Paris and made friends
quickly among other poor and struggling artists. But he was in deep
Some of Wagner's friends advised him to write some songs that would
be acceptable at social functions and in 1840 Trois Melodies were published.
Still impoverished, Wagner was constantly asking friends for money.
In April he had a brief meeting with the great Franz Liszt who later
invited him to one of his recitals. Liszt was a marvellous pianist,
perhaps the greatest the world has ever known, but Wagner was cross
because young and not so young women were fawning over him. Wagner's
financial problems were causing him endless stress and sleepless nights
and making him dislike everybody, whether it was Meyerbeer or Liszt.
His enemies ridiculed him about his debts.
He composed his Faust Overture and took up journalism thus emulating
Meyerbeer. He wrote three short stories. He also began sketches for
The Flying Dutchman. Meyerbeer encouraged him and even when Wagner returned
to Germany Meyerbeer still helped Wagner in many ways. Wagner hated
his dependence on Meyerbeer and, in a strange way, therefore hated Meyerbeer.
Wagner went to prison again for debt. On his release he sent the completed
score of Rienzi to the director of the Dresden Court Theatre with a
complimentary letter from Meyerbeer. Fearing imprisonment again Wagner
did a lot of hack work and with Minna and her daughter, Natalie, they
huddled together in one room. In July 1841 the new director of the Paris
opera expressed interest in The Flying Dutchman and there were the murmurs
of all interest in his work back in Germany. Thirty months in Paris
were too much for the Wagners and in April 1842 they left for Dresden.
The next few months were spent trying to mount performances of Rienzi
and The Flying Dutchman. He went to Berlin and encountered Mendelssohn
whom he did not like. He visited one of his brothers, Albert, in Halle
and was much taken with his fifteen year old daughter, Johanna, who
was a good singer. She was later to sing the role of Elisabeth in Tannhauser.
In the late summer rehearsals for Rienzi began and the opera opened
on 20th October. Despite its great length the audience were delighted.
Wagner conducted a performance of Weber's Euryanthe and this too was
a great success. Caroline, Weber's widow, pressed Wagner to accept the
post of second Kapellmeister in the theatre.
On 2 January 1843 Wagner conducted the premiere of The Flying Dutchman
with Schroder-Devrient as Senta. The audience did not take to the subject
matter and considered it a flop compared with Rienzi. But The Dutchman
is a vastly better piece. On 2 February Wagner was appointed Kapellmeister
of the Royal Court of Saxony.
The Vienna Court Opera wanted a new work from Wagner and Tannhauser
was in progress and earmarked for Dresden but he explained that Lohengrin
might be ready for 1845. He suggested that Vienna mounted Rienzi. Wagner
also wrote a Festgesang for male chorus to accompany the unveiling of
a statue of Friedrich August I. He also wrote The Love Feast of the
Apostles and rather hurriedly. Thanks to the good offices of Meyerbeer,
Berlin staged The Flying Dutchman in January 1844 with the composer
conducting. Mendelssohn congratulated and embraced Wagner at the end
of the performance.
The following year, in October, saw the premiere of Tannhauser which
had its problems with performance and audience response. It was claimed
to be too epic. Wagner turned to work on Lohengrin.
Wagner wanted improvements in the Dresden orchestra, the players' conditions
and generally a reassessment of all things. He wrote to the director
in March 1846 with these sound and sensible suggestions but his proposals
were eventually rejected. On Palm Sunday 1846 he conducted Beethoven's
Choral Symphony and it was said to he a sensational account. In the
audience were two aspiring musicians von Carolsfeld and Hans von Bülow.
Young von Bülow went to meet Wagner and inspired him by his keenness.
In turn, Wagner went to meet Spohr.
But he was still in debt. He appealed to the director, Luttichau, for
a loan which was given in consideration of the collateral of a life
policy, one third of his salary and the publication rights of three
operas. But this loan only paid existing debts. It had no effect for
the future. Wagner was now disillusioned with the theatre and its management.
Tannhauser was produced with the alternative ending and in January 1848
Wagner's mother died. He threw himself into completing Lohengrin and
this was to coincide with political upheaval.
The Paris revolt of 1848 ousted the Orleans monarchy. This triggered
new laws in Hungary and an upheaval in Vienna. The world wanted change.
There were uprisings in Vienna, Venice and Berlin. The Prussians put
down an uprising in Warsaw, Austria had to tackle a revolt in Prague
and the main agitator, Bakunin, fled to Dresden.
Wagner saw change as the only way to improve Germany and address the
issues that meant so much to him. But still his debts troubled him.
He wrote to Liszt for a loan at one time. He submitted plans to reorganise
the National Theatre of the Kingdom of Saxony and took great interest
in the plans for the unification of Germany. He made more enemies by
his political views.
He began to prepare an essay 'The Nibelung Myth' with a view to transforming
it into a musical drama. In the following year Liszt planned a production
of Tannhauser in Weimar. This encouraged Wagner. Wagner became involved
in the Orchestral Players Union to improve the conditions for the orchestra
at Dresden which widened the gap further between him and management.
And then came the political explosion, the Dresden revolt. Wagner was
friends with the leaders of the revolt and attended their meetings.
He helped arm the people for the coming conflict. He ordered the manufacture
of weapons including hand grenades. He ran a revolutionary newspaper.
He tried to gain support from Prague. He tried to persuade Saxon troops
to defect and therefore was guilty of treason. The King of Saxony rejected
all the demands of the liberals and the revolt began. Eventually it
was suppressed and the leaders condemned to death although the sentences
were commuted to life imprisonment. Wagner was smuggled out of Dresden
or he could have been given the same sentence. He went to Switzerland
and in a shop he discovered Meyerbeer who was unwilling to talk to Wagner
who was now a notorious fugitive. Minna was in Paris.
In August 1850 Liszt staged Lohengrin at Weimar. Wagner continued to
be bellicose and wrote an article 'Opera and Drama' which was an attack
of the excesses in opera as shown in the works of Meyerbeer. It was
a vicious reaction to Meyerbeer snubbing him in Zurich. Wagner now wrote
about how the theatre in Zurich could be improved which was also unwise
since Switzerland had proved to be his welcome refuge. He was working
on Siegfried's Tod and then considered the young Siegfried. He took
up a mild form of mountaineering. He persevered with the concept of
The Ring saga and wrote sketches for Rheingold and Walküre. Götterdämmerung
was still in the distance.
There was a great amount of work involved in The Ring and to add to
Wagner's workload he had been inspired by the Tristan and Isolde story
but could not undertake to work on that as well. So it was shelved but
in 1852 Karl Ritter reminded him of this subject. It is clear that Wagner
dug into all the characters of his dramas even to the point of having
special motifs for them. The Tristan story really impressed him and
there was nervous excitement which he experienced about this future
On Christmas Eve 1850 the London Philharmonic Society met in urgent
session. They had no famous name as their guest conductor and after
eliminating some who were occupied elsewhere Wagner's name came up.
His music was not well known in London but he did have a name. After
spending a few days in Paris, Wagner came to London arriving on 4th
May 1857. He had rooms at 22 Portland Terrace, Regents Park. The cost
of everything made his salary seem meagre. Whether he was a success
is debatable. He took music slightly on the slow side although not as
bad as Klemperer did a hundred years later and London audiences preferred
more ebullient tempi Wagner was concerned with clarity not cheap thrills.
He met the Scots composer Macfarren and conducted a symphony by Cipriani
Potter and a George Onslow overture along with regular repertoire from
Mendelssohn to Chopin. He was also working hard on scoring Die Walküre.
But he was not happy in London.
I want to go back a few years to the time of the beginning of Wagner's
refuge in Switzerland. Beethoven, whose life is very much like Wagner's,
had his immortal beloved. Wagner had Mathilde Wesendonck whose importance
in his life may not yet be fully realised.
In October 1850 Otto Wesendonck, who was a rich partner is a silk company
in New York, arrived in Zurich and settled there the following year
with his young wife Mathilde who was in her early twenties. It was the
time that Wagner was undergoing change and becoming hostile to many
ideas and people, his sturm und drang period. He wrote his notorious
essay Judaism in Music and he also wrote Art and Revolution which was
an attack on Christianity which he considered to be against art, free
expression and who dictated to man and therefore debased him. This brooding
melancholy led him to write On Musical Criticism.
The gloom was lifted on 16th March 1852 when Mathilde attended a concert
including the mighty Tannhauser Overture and The Flying Dutchman was
given four performances in Zurich during April and May. Otto supported
Wagner financially and in many other ways but it was Mathilde that Wagner
was fascinated with. Between Lohengrin and Rheingold he wrote an Album
Sonata in A flat and dedicated it to her. He also wrote a Polka in G
for her. In 1854 Mathilde gave Wagner a gift of a golden pen and she
was always in his mind as he completed Rheingold. He was clearly in
love with her and her relationship with Minna was very strained. It
also seems possible that his relationships are revealed in the Ring
saga, the most obvious being Wotan and Fricka being analogues for Richard
While in London he wrote to Mathilde of his new fascination, that of
Buddhism and, how he read regularly from Dante's Inferno. He went to
pantomimes and saw Mother Goose and Cinderella. But he was missing Mathilde.
Liszt was proving to be a consistent champion of Wagner's music. Liszt
dedicated his Dante Symphony to him. Liszt was now romantically involved
with Princess Caroline and they arrived in Zurich in 1856 and stayed
for six weeks.
The following year the Wesendoncks began building a large villa overlooking
the lake. This meant that Wagner's house would be much closer. He worked
feverishly on Siegfried but it was abandoned as was the whole of the
Ring project because Wagner's publishers showed no interest in it. He
turned to Tristan
Also in 1857 Bülow visited Wagner with his new wife, Cosima, the
daughter of Liszt. Bülow had abandoned studies with the law after
hearing the Weimar production of Lohengrin. He studied with Liszt and
had taken up conducting.
Cosima was to become the third major female influence in Wagner's life.
Cosima did not like Wagner at first believing him to be vulgar and self-centred.
In the winter of 1857/8 Wagner was setting some poems of Mathilde's
which have become known as the Wesendonck Songs. Only Traume was orchestrated
by Wagner; the others were later orchestrated by Felix Mottl.
By the new year both Minna and Otto were unhappy about the relationship
between their respective spouses. It exploded and Wagner went to Paris
for a while to let the matter cool down. It did and the friendships
were revived but not without another drama. The full score of Tristan
was completed in April 1858 while Minna was trying to prove that Mathilde
was a seductress. It seems that Mathilde would flaunt herself at Wagner.
A letter was intercepted and Minna took it as an admission of a sordid
affair and threatened Mathilde by suggesting she show it to her husband,
Cosima was not happy in her marriage and apparently began to show some
interest in Wagner. He quarrelled with Liszt and as the older man was
coming to the end of his career he would not be of more benefit to Wagner.
He began work on Parsifal, a curious subject for a man who had attacked
both Catholicism and Christianity.
In the Spring of 1861 Wagner set out for Vienna, his efforts to stage
Tristan in Paris having failed, where he encountered Eduard Hanslick,
a music critic, who had raved about Tannhauser but who now had become
an enemy. Here Wagner was receiving a taste of his own medicine. Hanslick
hated Wagner. Wagner hated Meyerbeer. Wagner now began to contemplate
again The Mastersingers as his next project. He was having real problems
with Minna and the staging of Tristan. And he was privately seeing Cosima
often while her husband was rehearsing.
Wagner's life was full of intrigue. Ludwig II became King of Bavaria
in March 1864. He was 18. He had been interested in Wagner's music for
many years although still a boy and he summoned Wagner to Court in Munich.
The King learned that Wagner was living in exile in Switzerland but
demanded Wagner be brought to Germany urgently.
Wagner was in two minds. On the one hand his return to his native country
would be a blessing and an expression of forgiveness. The king was homosexual.
Gossip circulated about Wagner and the king.
Wagner worked on The Mastersingers and wrote another pamphlet On State
and Religion. He kept on about certain subjects wanting to put the world
right by getting everyone to agree with him. His dominant, powerful
personality was his downfall. He composed the Huldigungsmarsch for Ludwig.
He wanted to start a music school in Munich concentrating on singing
and with a deliberate view to training singers to learn his work. There
were rumours of a new theatre to be built which would cost a fortune
and there was the scandal about a portrait of the king by Pecht and
its cost which Wagner was a party to and the alleged comment that Wagner
had referred to the king as a mere boy. Wagner's creditors began to
After a short time the king pleaded with Wagner to stay in Munich literally
referring to their friendship as glorious and until death. Hans von
Bülow was now a very sick man and Cosima could not cope with an
invalid or potential invalid. Her thoughts were always centred on Wagner.
But the friendship that was a problem was that of the King and Wagner.
Politicians told the king that this friendship could cause a constitutional
crisis AND the newspapers were enjoying a potential scandal with wild
cartoons. Reluctantly Ludwig said that Wagner had to leave Bavaria.
There had been talk of a possible assassination attempt on the king.
Wagner was a fugitive again and went to Switzerland.
On December 26th 1865 Minna died in Dresden. Wagner did not seem that
concerned and worked on Die Meistersinger. In March 1867 Cosima and
her daughter, Daniela, joined Wagner. Cosima fell pregnant with Wagner's
child and Liszt was furious. In May of that year the King said he wished
to abdicate in order to be with Wagner who advised him not to be rash.
Bavaria was about to be drawn into a war between Austria and Prussia.
Cosima was back and forth between Bülow and Wagner but she left
her husband for ever in November 1868. On the 6th May 1869 she gave
birth to Helferich Siegfried Richard. Cosima begged Bülow for a
divorce. Hans Richter now became Wagner's ambassador.
Nietzsche was a professor of philology in Basel and took an interest
in Wagner. Nietzsche was a man who had thoughts similar to Wagner although
they were more extreme. Nietzsche promulgated the idea that God was
dead, that religion was holding man back and that Darwin's theories
must be embraced. In social and business life everyone had to fight
for survival and advancement and to achieve goals it did not matter
who was hurt in the process. The idea was, "No God and so no morality.
We can all do what we like. No law, therefore the freedom to do what
we like. We are answerable to no one."
Wagner was now completing the final opera in The Ring cycle. Nietzsche
was sending Wagner his essays. Wagner was also reading about Bayreuth
and its famous connections of the 18th century. In September 1870 his
son Siegfried, who was now legitimised, was christened. Wagner had married
Cosima on the king's birthday, 25th August.
For her birthday on Christmas Day 1871 Cosima received the gift of the
Siegfried Idyll played by a group of musicians under Richter. It is
not a work that I am particularly enamoured of but Richter liked it.
The final years of Wagner's life was taken up with the Bayreuth project
and the completion of Parsifal. It is curious that Parsifal reveals
Wagner's character. It seems to be his attempt to convert Catholicism
A theatre at Bayreuth would involve a massive financial outlay. King
Ludwig was in favour of Wagner's plans. He was still besotted with Wagner
and had broken off his engagement to Sophie largely because of his love
for Wagner. The king would not comply with his advisors telling him
to marry to prove that he was not homosexual. Ludwig was also distressed
because he knew that Wagner would not return to Munich.
The cost of building the theatre was estimated at 300,000 thalers. There
would have to be sponsors and fund raising events and share certificates
at 300 thalers each.
Wagner did not let up on his literary work. The death of Auber in 1871
prompted Recollections of Auber; he also published an open letter to
Nietzsche whose first book compared the Greeks to modern Germany and
that Greek ideas that should be adopted into German society who, he
said, had to revive the Hellenic world.
The eleven years silence between Liszt and Wagner came to an end with
a sort of reconciliation. Partly it was that Cosima wanted to discuss
with her father becoming a Protestant.
The foundations of the Bayreuth theatre were laid in 1872 but the numbers
of sponsors were not enough. By the new year of 1874 the project seemed
doomed. In April of that year Wagner moved into Wahnfried, his Bayreuth
home. By November the Ring was finished and the theatre was being built.
The first festival was in 1876. One of the main problems were the swimming
machines for the Rhinemaidens. The second and last festival of his lifetime
was in 1882. He had planned another for the summer of 1883 but Wagner
died on 13 February that year from a heart attack.
David C.F. Wright
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