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                           Sven-David Sandström –
                           
                           interviewed by Göran Forsling – on his 
                           opera Batseba soon to be premièred in 
                           Stockholm (GF) 
                            
                           
                           
                           
                           L-R Michael Weinius (David in 
                           Batseba) and Sven-David Sandström
                           ‘On the most basic level, music is the expression 
                           of feelings. As a composer I want to convey a vision 
                           of the artistic life through emotions. I want to move 
                           people, not necessarily by conveying only pleasant 
                           feelings, but also by challenging the audience. 
                           Today, as well as throughout most of my career, I 
                           work with a wide variety of modes of expression to 
                           achieve this goal: excessive beauty, naïve music, 
                           modernist techniques, and most lately, techniques 
                           that draw upon all my previous experiences as a 
                           composer. In my music, stylistic diversity serves a 
                           higher end. I can be naïve as well as complex, if the 
                           mood of expression or the dramatic unfolding of a 
                           piece so demands.’
                           
                           The text above is the 
                           opening paragraph from Statement of Artistic and 
                           Pedagogical Vision, written in August 2001 by 
                           Swedish composer Sven-David Sandström. Now in his 
                           mid-sixties he has been a central figure in Swedish 
                           music life for more than four decades. He studied 
                           with Ingvar Lidholm, once member of the famous 
                           modernist ‘Monday Group’ after WW2. At the outset of 
                           his career Sandström wrote in a complex modernist, 
                           technically demanding style. Internationally his 
                           breakthrough came at the 1972 ISCM Festival in 
                           Amsterdam with the orchestral work Through and 
                           Through, which led to a commission from the BBC,
                           Utmost, premiered by members of the BBC 
                           Symphony Orchestra under Pierre Boulez.
                           
                           A turning point came in the early 1980s, when he 
                           started composing in a more accessible, neo-romantic 
                           style. His controversial Requiem (1982) was a 
                           seminal work, twelve years later he composed High 
                           Mass, a Catholic Mass with Bach’s B-minor as 
                           starting-point. When it was performed in Minneapolis 
                           2003 under Philip Brunelle my colleague Bruce Hodges 
                           wrote in his review ‘this might possibly be one of 
                           the greatest choral works of the last twenty years or 
                           so.’
                           
                           Sven-David is hardworking and prolific. Composing in 
                           practically all genres within Western Art Music 
                           tradition his oeuvre encompasses about 200 works. He 
                           held a professorship in composition at the Royal 
                           College of Music in Stockholm 1985 – 1995 and from 
                           1999 a corresponding chair at Indiana University, 
                           Bloomington, USA. At present he is in the limelight 
                           due to the imminent premiere (13 December) of his new 
                           opera Batseba at the Royal Swedish Opera in 
                           Stockholm. To get some aspects on the work I called 
                           him a couple of weeks before the premiere. He was 
                           then spending a lot of his time at the rehearsals and 
                           he was full of confidence but admitted that with the 
                           premiere approaching the tension also increased.
                           
                           Every syllable of the quoted introduction above – his 
                           musical Credo – breezes communication and his 
                           verbal expressivity is just as striking as his 
                           musical.
                           
                           
                           
                           ‘It is a biblical theme and 
                           it is a subject I grasp. A lot of people know the 
                           story which can be read in the Books of Samuel and 
                           the Books of Chronicles in the Old Testament. It is 
                           multifarious, cruel – and topical. There are certain 
                           things we in our culture can’t identify with any 
                           longer. The natural male perspective is one: when 
                           King David sees Bathsheba, the wife of Uriah, one of 
                           his soldiers, he sends for her, lies with her and she 
                           becomes pregnant. Cruelty and calculation is nothing 
                           unknown today but when David orders Uriah to be 
                           placed at the forefront in the battle and 
                           consequently killed so he can marry Bathsheba, he 
                           seems to be going too far beyond the morals of today 
                           – and it displeases the Lord! But the eternal fights 
                           are just as topical: the battle between good and bad, 
                           the battle between man and woman. The struggle for 
                           power between David and Bathsheba is central and in 
                           the end David dies, Bathsheba takes over, gets her 
                           will and her son with David, Solomon becomes king.
                            It is a cruel opera: 
                           war, murder, mutilation; it is dramatic and thrilling 
                           – and beautiful!’
                           
                           
                           ‘The libretto is based on Torgny 
                           Lindgren’s novel 
                           
                           Batseba and written by Leif 
                           Janzon. How much influence did you have on the growth 
                           of the opera?’
                           
                           ‘The idea was mine in the 
                           first place and it was aroused when I read the novel 
                           when it was new, back in 1984. After that it was a 
                           long process before everything was settled. Leif and 
                           I have discussed all the time but I have not directed 
                           anything. I have had views about what I wanted – 
                           should we have choruses, maybe a children’s chorus – 
                           but I have in no way interfered with his writing.’
                           
                           
                           ‘What about Torgny Lindgren? Has he 
                           been involved?’
                           
                           
                           ‘I know Torgny and we talked about it 
                           but he had no specific views so we could feel free to 
                           design it according to our own ideas.’
                           
                           
                           ‘The libretto is in English, which is 
                           a novelty for a Swedish opera. Why?’
                           
                           
                           ‘Swedish is not exactly a language for 
                           a possible international market. I tried to translate 
                           a Swedish libretto into English and it was 
                           tremendously difficult. Something that works well 
                           musically when you set a Swedish text may turn out 
                           awkward in translation and so we settled for English. 
                           But the original intention was to write it in 
                           Swedish. However, Leif had problems getting started 
                           and so we contemplated making it in English. We were 
                           given the green light from the management of the 
                           opera and off we went. Lindgren’s novel has been 
                           translated into English but I don’t believe Leif used 
                           it. There will of course be Swedish surtitles, 
                           written by Lasse Zilliacus, who is a masterly 
                           linguist.’
                           
                           
                           [The new Director of the Royal Swedish 
                           Opera, Birgitta Svendén, due to take office next 
                           autumn, has on her agenda exchange of productions 
                           with other stages, so this concept fits perfectly 
                           well with her ambitions. Read the interview with her
                           
                           here.]
                           
                           ‘This is a grand opera, playing for 2½ hours, 
                           including interval. When you start working on a 
                           project like this, what is it that triggers your 
                           inspiration?’
                           
                           
                           ‘I actually imagine the drama in 
                           cinematic terms. I know perfectly well that a lot of 
                           this will not be possible to realize on the stage, 
                           but I don’t bother. The filmic images are my 
                           inspiration and then it’s up to stage director and 
                           set designer to transform it into something 
                           practicable. Batseba plays in 20 different 
                           rooms with different lighting and the sets are rather 
                           abstract.’
            ‘The production is 
            directed by David Radok, former Music Director of the Royal Opera 
            Leif Segerstam will conduct and the cast comprises several of the 
            leading soloists of the house with Hillevi Martinpelto, playing the 
            old Batseba, presumably the internationally best known name. How 
            long has it been in the making – since you started working on the 
            score?’
            
            
            ‘There is so much that has to be sorted out before composition can 
            begin. You have to present the libretto, have it accepted as 
            playable, then you need a commission, and all of this takes time in 
            an organisation of this size. It has to be fitted into the schedule. 
            I started writing the music in 2007. The management are satisfied 
            with the length of the opera. We can’t expect people to sit through 
            performances of modern works lasting for four to five hours as some 
            of the Wagner operas do.’
            
            
            ‘What about life after 
            Batseba? You 
            have a unique project running for the 
            Cathedral Parish. (The Cathedral – Storkyrkan – is the church just 
            behind the Royal Castle in Old Town and the parish encompasses also 
            St Jacob (the red church just beside the Royal Opera) and St Clara 
            (the church close to the Central Station)’
            
            ‘It is a three-year-project which implies 
            that I am going to compose music for every Sunday of the 
            ecclesiastical year. It is in a way a task similar to Bach’s when he 
            was in Leipzig. Hopefully people will see that there are connections 
            between the present and the past. What is also unique is that the 
            whole project is financed by private sponsors. Another project, 
            commissioned by the Bach Festival in Stuttgart is a new Messiah.
            I’m setting Jennens’ text, as Handel also did, and both works 
            will be performed during the festival. That is also a way of 
            building bridges between the centuries. People will be able to hear 
            the Hallelujah Chorus in Handel’s 18th century idiom and 
            then my version of today. It is fascinating…’
            
            ......says 
            Sven-David Sandström and apologizes for having to run to an 
            appointment. He seems to be always on his way somewhere, whether it 
            be musically, philosophically or plainly moving physically through 
            the bustling traffic in the Capital.
            
            
            Göran Forsling
            
            
	
	
			
	
	
              
	
	
              
              
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