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SEEN AND HEARD INTERVIEW
              
              Paolo Gavanelli: 
               The 
              Italian baritone talks 
              to Anne Ozorio about singing Scarpia at The Royal Opera (AO)
              
 
              
              
              
              
              Verdi and Puccini wrote roles that 
              demand tremendous presence, and few singers create them as 
              effectively as Paolo Gavanelli. His characterisations are so 
              powerful that it was a little worrying to encounter someone who 
              can create such Rigolettos, Nabuccos, Scarpias, Iagos, and Gianni 
              Schicchis, but Gavanelli himself is charming.  It’s all in 
              his art: he says his roles come alive because he thinks about how 
              the music is written. But this is a modest understatement, for 
              much experience and intelligence goes into his work. This Tosca, 
              a production by Jonathan Kent, was premiered by Bryn Terfel just 
              two years ago, but Gavanelli’s Scarpia will make it special.
              
              Gavanelli has created Rigoletto no 
              fewer less than 185 times and will soon achieve 200 productions.  
              Even by his standards, his 2001 Rigoletto at the Royal Opera House 
              was a milestone.  He scuttled across the stage like a wounded 
              spider, but he sang the role with such dignity that he made the 
              role deeply moving.  “If you think about what Rigoletto did, he is 
              like a monster for keeping his daughter hidden like a prisoner, 
              but if you look at the tessitura in the first act it’s very, very 
              high for a baritone.  When a baritone sings that high, it’s 
              disturbing, like having a stick in your body, something’s not 
              right. Then in the second act, the tone is real baritone, in the 
              middle register. That’s when you discover the real nature of 
              Rigoletto. Then, at the end, the fermata are very low, for he is 
              coming close to finding out his daughter is dead.. It’s cupo, 
              very dark.  It’s perfect. Verdi has designed the character”.
            
            If Gavanelli 
            can make Rigoletto sympathetic, what does he make of Scarpia ? “It 
            depends on the point of view”, he says. “Nowadays the public has an 
            idea that Scarpia is bad.  In Italy, we say that the history taught 
            in schools is written by the winners not the losers. So of course we 
            think Angelotti and Cavaradossi are good because they are 
            republicans.   But when you think about 1800, Napoleon and the 
            battle of Marengo, it’s a time of great instability. For many people 
            then, Scarpia meant order and security. To him, the republicans are 
            like terrorists now, trying to destroy things. He is a policeman 
            doing his job.  He’s practical and pragmatic, not evil.
              
            
            Angoscia grande, pronta confessione eviterà!  
            If he can get a confession, it saves everyone trouble. He’s not 
            like Iago who is evil in purest state.  Iago gets pleasure from 
            doing evil, from making others suffer. But Scarpia supports the 
            church and state because that’s what gives him his power.  When he 
            makes the sign of the Cross in the second act he doesn’t do it 
            because he trusts in God but because he thinks, if I pray, God will 
            do something for me. Do ut des, that’s Latin, I give you 
            something, you give me something back.  This is how Scarpia is.
            A doppia mira tendo il voler, my will takes aim at a double 
            target, né il capo del ribelle è la più preziosa, and the 
            rebel’s head isn’t the only prize. He wants Tosca and he can get rid 
            of the rebel too.  Of course Scarpia is brutal, but always he has 
            something to conquer, power, Tosca…..”
            
            Although he has sung Scarpia many times, each time he finds 
            something new from the music. “I’m trying to get as little movement 
            as possible. Everything happens in this opera in only a few hours, 
            close to real time. I want to put in the idea that Scarpia is used 
            to doing these things every day, it’s his routine.  Angelotti and 
            Cavaradossi get tortured, but the same would happen to any 
            republican rebel. It’s just the way they used to do things then. So 
            when he arrives at the church, he doesn’t have to shake his fingers 
            and shout. Spoleto and the other policemen know perfectly what they 
            have to do. They do things like this all the time.  No ? When 
            Scarpia arrives he just looks around majestically and says, “Un 
            tal baccano in chiesa!, what a noise in a church !”. 
            Everyone else is running around.   But I look at the window, it’s 
            very soft and quiet, almost no movement.  But when Scarpia moves, 
            everyone notices, the public is shocked. In Italy, we have a saying 
            “the dog that barks does not bite”.  Scarpia knows he has power, so 
            he doesn’t need to show it by screaming. When he questions 
            Cavaradossi he doesn’t shout, he just asks quietly.  He’s pragmatic, 
            he doesn’t waste time”.
            
            Gavanelli is intelligent – he was one of the top law students in his 
            years at Padua, one of the oldest universities in Europe – and 
            intelligence certainly shows in the way he approaches his work.  His 
            roles have huge emotional impact, but they arise from firm 
            technique. “I have to give emotion when I sing, but I do not have to 
            have emotion while I’m singing. It’s different. When I sing it’s 
            well prepared and I know what I have to do”. Recently  he heard 
            someone asked Maurizio Pollini what he felt when he played. 
            “Nothing” said Pollini, “if I get too emotional I make mistakes”.  A 
            performer is like a channel allowing feeling to flow between composer and 
            audience.  When he was training, his teacher told him that in a 
            career, “The voice is 5% important. The rest is stamina, strong 
            nerves, and good technique. Of course a perfect voice helps, but 
            some people start with a wonderful voice but after a few years it’s 
            finished. And other people have good careers because they can use 
            the voice they have well”.
            
            Although Gavanelli at 48 is relatively young for someone so 
            prominent, he has seen many changes. From the age of 4 or 5 he was 
            listening to the great singers of the past – Benjamino Gigli, 
            Giovanni Martinelli, Giuseppe de Luca, Appolo Granforte.  “Things 
            now are not like 60 or 70 years ago. When Gigli sang in America, he 
            went by ship and it took 2 weeks. And on board he had a pianist and 
            piano and he could vocalize with the fresh ocean air! Nowadays we 
            fly everywhere, we sing every 2 or 3 days. In San Francisco I’m 
            singing my 70th Gianni Schicchi”.  When he started 
            singing, he had to practice a short passage from Eri tu che 
            macchiavi quell'anima for weeks until it was perfect, but 
            singers don’t have that luxury today. And audiences are used to 
            judging by recordings. “Every performance has to be like a 
            premiere.  I love audiences but I wish they would understand that we 
            are human. We can sing 100 performances, and people only remember 
            the one that wasn’t so good because we were sick or had problems 
            like everyone else in the world has sometimes. And they forget the 
            99 that were wonderful !”
            
            Gavanelli is a regular at the Royal Opera House because he’s much 
            respected.  He’s also a regular in Munich, where he was appointed 
            Kammersänger in 2005. The honour means a lot because it was awarded 
            by the Bavarian State Ministry and he doesn’t sing German 
            repertoire. He’s met many great singers, but he remembers the time 
            early in his career when he sang with Julia Varady in La Traviata. 
            He’d sung the second strophe of Di Provenza il mar with pppp, 
            four pianissmi.  Afterwards, Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau came up 
            and took him by the arm. “Mr Gavanelli”, he said, “Don’t ever lose 
            your pianissimo! I can hear it in the last row of the theatre 
            !” 
            It taught him something about using the voice for dramatic effect.  
            “You can sing most of an opera piano but at some point you have to 
            be forte. If you are screaming all the time it’s boring, and after 
            a few minutes the audience gives up.  But if you sing piano, lento, 
            calando, when you do the forte people will pay attention”.  So Gavanelli’s Scarpia, this month at the Royal Opera House, 
            will seem all the 
            more menacing for being restrained and orderly.
            
            
            
            
            Anne Ozorio
	
	
		       
            
              
              
              Picture courtesy of  IMG Artists (UK)
              
            
              
              
              
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